Y’all Can’t Have It Both Ways! God is Incompetent, Unloving or He’s not!

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In the military field manual FM 3-0, The United States military’s FIRST OBJECTIVE in war is “Direct every military operation toward a clearly defined, decisive and attainable objective. The ultimate military purpose of war is the destruction of the enemy’s ability to fight and will to fight.”  Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principles_of_war#United_States_principles_of_war

According to the Bible, there was a war in heaven. The antagonist was Lucifer along with one-third of the angels. They all rebelled against God, who ultimately cast them all out of heaven to earth. Currently, according to the story, God ‘allows’ Satan to roam the earth, to tempt and deceive his creation, and to continue to fight against Him.

According to the Bible’s description of the aftermath of this war, God utterly failed in achieving the first military objective. God did not achieve a decisive victory over Satan, and worst of all, He failed to destroy Satan’s ability to continue to fight!

Baptists teach that God is sovereign over all. God has absolute power over Satan.

The Bible shows us that Satan is obviously alive and well here on planet earth.

Revelation 12:7 – 9 says And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”   Source: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+12&version=KJV

So essentially, God won a war, threw Satan and his angels to earth. And then what happened? Well, and then God created Adam and Eve on earth, the same place that He knew Satan and his angels were residing. And here’s what happened. . .

Genesis 3:1-7 says, Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.” Source: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3&version=NIV

Now I really don’t know if Satan was cast out of heaven to earth before or after God created mankind, but the timeline doesn’t matter so much as they results. Satan has his own kingdom here on earth, and is still active.

This situation would be similar to the United States attacking ISIS, but not fully destroying their ability to make war, but actually letting them live free to recruit, attack, torture, and kill innocent people. (Hmmm. . .seems to me that a former traitorous president actually did do that. But not to digress here, I’ll get back on point!)

So it seems as if God is not really too concerned about utterly defeating Satan since Job records that He allowed Satan to meet with Him and even wager a bet against Job.

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?

10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.

11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.

12 And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord.”  Source: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+1&version=KJV

Not only did God not accomplish the number one military objective of preventing the enemy from the ability to wage war, He even conferred with Satan and used Job as an unwilling pawn in a bet! God turned on Job to win a bet with His enemy! The word ‘traitor’ comes to mind here.

Unloving, uncaring, incompetent, are the words that I believe are quite appropriate for describing God’s actions and lack thereof in his dealings with Satan and mankind.

And yet, this same God, who knew everything that would happen, is claiming to be using us in His war against Satan to redeem the universe back to perfection?? Really? This God who is supposedly sovereign over all, who is supposedly completely powerful over Satan is just taking His sweet time to let Satan hurt, lie, and destroy millions of innocent human lives over thousands of years when He could have just eliminated Satan instantly?

What kind of ‘loving God’ plays this kind of brutal, evil long-term game with His creation?

Baptists, y’all can’t have it both ways. God cannot be loving, just, holy, merciful, etc…AND literally do these acts especially if He is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent!

Or what if none of this is literally true? What if all these stories are myths, parables if you will, but not historically factual? Would that solve the problem of a ‘loving God?’

Maybe, but to me anyway, the question then arises, where does literal recorded history start up? Are the genealogies factual? Is the history of Israel being slaves and finally escaping from Egypt fact or myth?

I was taught to believe that the Genesis account were factual, historical events presented to us in a linear fashion. But if that is so, then how is it that God could not have foreseen the evil that mankind did prior to Him deciding to drown everyone and have a ‘redo?’ And why did God wish to kill all life on the earth? Even the innocents?

And more to the point, why are there civilizations that have ongoing continuous records before, during and after the time the universal flood was claimed to have happened?

Facts can be very pesky things to synthetic theology.

And no Baptists, you can’t have it both ways. Either believe the facts or believe your theological delusions.



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